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Sat 30th November 2013 08:25 by Peter Harvey
No, these are male Amaurobius similis. This is a common spider of walls, fences, windowsills etc in houses and gardens. Can you please provide a full postcode so that your record can be added to the recording scheme contact us.
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Fri 29th November 2013 21:12 by Lara Evans
False Widow ?
Please can you tell if these may be False widows that I spotted at work today. The darker one is smaller and it was a scaffold web. Which type may they be ? Found in North East London....Many Thanks...Lara

Not False widows IG8 Copyright: Lara Evans

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Sat 23rd November 2013 18:01 by Peter Harvey
Yes, Steatoda bipunctata.
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Sat 23rd November 2013 15:28 by Tim Hodge
Steatoda bipunctata TG4523 23.11.2013
I hope that this is as suggested, on the outside of my house this morning.

Thanks, Tim Hodge

Steatoda bipunctata Horsey Corner TG4523 23.11.2013 Copyright: Tim Hodge

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Fri 22nd November 2013 14:56 by Peter Harvey
Yes, looks good.
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Fri 22nd November 2013 12:28 by Tim Hodge
Odiellus spinosus?
This was on my house wall at Horsey Corner Norfolk TG4523 on 18.11.2013. I've tentatively identified it as Odiellus spinosus but would be grateful for confirmation.

Thanks, Tim Hodge

Odiellus spinosus Horsey Corner TG4523 18.11.2013 Picture 1 Copyright: Tim Hodge

Odiellus spinosus Horsey Corner TG4523 18.11.2013 Picture 2 Copyright: Tim Hodge

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Fri 15th November 2013 19:23 by Peter Harvey
Excellent, thanks
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Fri 15th November 2013 18:49 by Tim Hodge
Thanks, Peter

The location name is Horsey Corner in East Norfolk. It was on the outside of my house adjacent to the front door.

Tim

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Fri 15th November 2013 17:00 by Peter Harvey
No, this will be Opilio canestrinii, the harvestman I first found in the Lea Valley in Essex in 1999 and which is now turning up all over the country (see Opilio canestrinii). Good to have another record of this. What location name and situation was this?
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Fri 15th November 2013 11:20 by Tim Hodge
Harvestman TG4523 15 Nov 2013
I'm hoping that the image is of Opilio parietinus. Grateful for confirmation.

Thanks, Tim Hodge

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Wed 13th November 2013 19:32 by Peter Harvey
Dear Stuart

Your spider is probably Meta menardi, but it is not possible to be absolutely sure about the identification unless an adult is examined under a microscope. You are welcome to send one to me at 32 Lodge Lane, Grays, Essex RM16 2YP (inside a small plastic container with a little tissue to hang on to and inside a small padded envelope is fine). The annulated legs suggest M. menardi is probably correct, but we do not know how reliable this is in separating the two species menardi and bourneti. M. bourneti is undoubtedly under-recorded because in the past people have assumed they have menardi.

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Wed 13th November 2013 19:24 by Stuart Little
Meta Menardi?
Could anyone assist in (confirm) identification? Cave Spider on Manhole cover Copyright: Stuart Little I think this is a Meta Menardi, since there are associated hanging eggsacks which are common for this species:-

Not a particularly big specimen; it's possible there is more than one species in here (old well). Cave Spider (5mm squares) Copyright: Stuart Little Squares are 5mm. Location Harvel, Kent, TQ65233. Alititude 150m Ancient well (on chalk).  Spider on manhole cover, egg sacks on bricked in top of well. Chalk downland habitat. Thanks

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Mon 11th November 2013 18:42 by Tim Hodge
Thanks very much for the IDs Peter, much appreciated. I'm aiming to get a microscope and going on spider ID courses so I'll try not to bother you too much again! Regards, Tim
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Mon 11th November 2013 14:37 by Peter Harvey
I misunderstood your 'post' reference, thinking you actually meant post real spiders (by Royal Mail)! For the vast majority of the 670-odd British spiders there is no substitute for identifying real ones under a microscope.

Starting at the top of your post,I would say the following:- Richborough Castle Kent TR3260 07.10.2013 (2) looks odd for colour and the legs, but I think is probably the harvestman Paroligolophus agrestis.

The next four down are all Pisaura mirabilis, a variable spider in terms of colour and depth of pattern.

The next two are the harvestman Paroligolophus agrestis and the last two a male of the harvestman Leiobunum rotundum.

You have also uploaded more photos, Richborough Castle Kent TR3260 07.10.2013 (1) is Metellina female, probably segmentata, but you need a microscope to be sure.

Minster Marshes Kent TR3063 30.09.2013 is Pisuara mirabilis again.

Minster Marshes Kent TR3063 29.09.2013 (2) and Minster Marshes Kent TR3063 29.09.2013 (1) is a female Leiobunum. You need to be able to clearly see the eye banding.

Minster Marshes Kent TR3063 24.09.2013 is probably Mitopus morio.

Minster Marshes Kent TR3063 23.09.2013 is Araneus diadematus.

Minnis Bay Kent TR2668 21.09.2013 is Metellina species.

Manston Kent TR3166 20.09.2013 is probably Mitopus morio.

Pegwell Bay Kent TR3564 18.09.2013 is Araneus diadematus.

Highstead Sand Pit Kent TR2166 12.09.2013 (1) and (2) are an Araniella species, probably either cucurbitina or opisthographa, but adults under a microscope are essential for species id.

Highstead Sand Pit Kent TR2166 12.09.2013 is Tetragnatha species, adults under a microscope necessary for species id.

Chislet Park Kent TR2163 30.08.2013 is Larinioides cornutus.

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Mon 11th November 2013 14:18 by Tim Hodge
Spiders/Harvestmen Kent/Norfolk Autumn 2013
Thanks for looking at these photos, Peter. I'd be most grateful for any assistance in ID. I'd like to improve my knowledge of spiders and hope to get more into them now I've moved to Norfolk. At the moment though I'm a complete novice. There are some other photos which I've uploaded to the picture gallery, but only 9 are showing on the Forum page - these are the ones below. I'm not quite sure how to access the other ones to attach them to a post. Regards, Tim Hodge

Richborough Castle Kent TR3260 07.10.2013 (2) Copyright: Tim Hodge Pegwell Bay Kent TR3463 07.10.2013 (1) Copyright: Tim Hodge Pegwell Bay Kent TR3463 07.10.2013 (2) Copyright: Tim Hodge Weddington Kent TR2959 08.10.2013 (1) Copyright: Tim Hodge Weddington Kent TR2959 08.10.2013 (2) Copyright: Tim Hodge Weddington Kent TR2959 08.10.2013 (3) Copyright: Tim Hodge Weddington Kent TR2959 08.10.2013 (4) Copyright: Tim Hodge Horsey Mere Norfolk TG4522 17.10.2013 (1) Copyright: Tim Hodge Horsey Mere Norfolk TG4522 17.10.2013 (2) Copyright: Tim Hodge

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Sun 10th November 2013 18:59 by Peter Harvey
The new wolf spider photos are almost certainly Alopecosa pulverulenta, at this time of year probably juvenile.

Yes, please post, but much better to send them in one batch.

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Sun 10th November 2013 16:47 by Tim Hodge
Spider Chambers Wall Kent (TR2567) October 2103
Thanks very much for the ID of the Zebra Spider, Peter.

I attach another couple of photos to have a look at. I do have about 10 species this autumn taken in Kent which may or may not be identifiable. Are you happy if I post a couple a day for the next few days?

Regards

Tim Hodge

Spider Chambers Wall Oct 2013 Picture 1 Copyright: Tim Hodge Spider Chambers Wall Oct 2013 Picture 2 Copyright: Tim Hodge

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Sun 10th November 2013 14:56 by Peter Harvey
This will be the jumping spider Salticus scenicus, the 'zebra spider', but juvenile at this time of year.
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Sun 10th November 2013 12:47 by Tim Hodge
Small black and white spider Kent September 013
I saw this spider at Highstead Sand Pit in Kent (TR2166) on 12.09.2013. Is it possible to ID it from the photos?

Thanks

Tim Hodge

Small black and white Spider Picture 2 Copyright: Tim Hodge Small black and white Spider Picture 1 Copyright: Tim Hodge

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Fri 8th November 2013 19:57 by Peter Harvey
Yes, Nuctenea umbratica. Can you provide a postcode or Ordnance Survey grid reference please, so that your record can be added to the recording scheme.
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Fri 8th November 2013 19:40 by Tim Sexton
Nuctenea umbratica? ID confirmation please
Is this Nuctenea umbratica?

In my garden in July.

Thanks in advance.

Tim

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Thu 7th November 2013 08:14 by Kerry Earp
thanks
Thanks for the ID help. Brilliant.  I wish the media would stop all the scare mongering. You can't imagine the fear (obviously unwarranted) that my family have and their suggestions of eradication (will be ignored). Thanks again
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Wed 6th November 2013 22:59 by Peter Harvey
Yes, it seems to be Steatoda nobilis. Thanks for postcode.
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Wed 6th November 2013 20:44 by Kerry Earp
Re Steatoda ID
Steatoda nobilis ID Copyright: Kerry Earp Here's another pic, still not great quality but abdo markings clearer.  Does this help?

Many Thanks PE4 6LY

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Wed 6th November 2013 20:06 by Kerry Earp
thanks
Thanks. Yer sorry it's a dark pic.  It's an old one. Got another living in the bathroom window at mo but every time I go for a pic it retreats. I'll keep trying.  Post code is pe4 6ly. Many thanks.
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Wed 6th November 2013 18:14 by Peter Harvey
It is difficult to see the pattern on the abdomen because it is not lit enough. However by copying and lightening the photo, I would say the probable id is S. nobilis. If you can get a better lit photo, can you also provide a postcode or Ordnance Survey grid reference for the spider so that your record can be added to the recording scheme.
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Wed 6th November 2013 17:05 by Kerry Earp
identification help
possible Steatoda nobilis Copyright: Kerry Earp I would be very grateful for help with identification. I am very new to spider identifying and my interest was bought about by finding these in the windows of our house. From my research they seem to be steatoda nobilis? But it seems to be rare (or under reported) in this area (Peterborough) and so I'm questioning my ID skills. Im aware ID confirmation from a pic is tricky but pointers on the appropriate steps would be welcomed. I would like to add we've lived happily with these spiders for sometime and I have no plans to remove them despite my husband's arachnophobia!
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Tue 5th November 2013 10:31 by Chris Emblem-English
Steatoda nobilis intrigue - nothing to do with bites
I've noticed that S. nobilis have become more commonplace lurking around my parents' garden shed (in London) over the last three years. The same structure used to be a guaranteed place to spot a few Nuctenea umbratica, which seemed to be the most obvious species before I noticed S. nobilis showing up. Whenever I have checked at night in recent times N. umbratica seem to be absent. I'm in no way wishing to contribute to the hysterical demonisation of false widows - I'm just wondering if this represents a case of competition of some kind between these species leading to the reduced abundance of N. umbratica within a shared habitat. Maybe it's just coincidence, or the time of year, or some other factor. Has anyone else noticed anything similar?

Chris

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