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Fri 28th February 2014 15:33 by Evan Jones
RE Identification help. AndyBeck
If in UK it looks like Nuctenea umbratica.  Out at night on fences tree trunks etc. Very strong web (you can twang it !) for big mothing.
Sat 22nd February 2014 08:18 by Evan Jones
Lathys stigmatisata
'Should qualify Lathys stigmatisata being "common". I should have said very locally common for it is found only on certain sites with good areas of open but vegetated shingle. Such places are found between Eastbourne and Rye but are fragmented and under increasing pressure. So L. stigmatisata is still rare!
Fri 21st February 2014 19:03 by Peter Harvey
Well, size can't be adequately gauged from photographs, or even dimensions, since it depends on the meaning of the 5mm! Rear through or find adults is the only answer. Incidentally, when you say Lathys stigmatissima is common in East Sussex shingle habitats, we clearly don't have all these records (see Distribution/s/Lathys+stigmatisata/o/7. I had ruled out L. stigmatissima anyway because the legs in your photo are annulated, but thought the general appearance was in that region. Without microscopical examination, even of a juvenile, there is not enough information. I am also sure there are European possibilities which ought to be considered, but again, no point without an adult, when all will probably be clear.
Fri 21st February 2014 17:30 by Evan Jones
L. stigmatisata Copyright: Evan JonesHi Peter,

It is too big for Lathys. L. stigmatisata is common in East Sussex shingle habitats and I know it well and it is titchy. I think it probably is Coelotes and that the young just look different. I will try to keep it alive till it grows till it is old enough to say!

The above bad picture is L. stigmatsata but interesting as if you look closely it has a mohican!

Fri 21st February 2014 16:37 by Peter Harvey
I wouldn't say Coelotes myself, but without actually having the spider under a microscope so that one can see details! I would have thought a dictynid like Lathys might be more likely.
Fri 21st February 2014 15:38 by Evan Jones
Not sure what this is
Top of beach under stone. Think it is a young Coelotes 5mm long immature not often find them in this location. I cannot remember if the young have banded legs. Adults do not. What Copyright: Evan JonesSlightly iridescent as Coelotes often are.

Any ideas?

Wed 12th February 2014 21:07 by Evan Jones
Tegenaria revision.
Perhaps I better get on to it. I wonder where Agroeca will fit in?
Wed 12th February 2014 13:22 by Peter Harvey
No-one as far as I am aware. The comment was a general one that Tegenaria will be retained pending a thorough revision of the whole genus - whenever that might happen.
Wed 12th February 2014 09:32 by Evan Jones
The New Checklist
Thanks Peter,

Who is revising the genus do you know?

I could have some helpful suggestions. :) !

For example I found the specimen of Tegenaria silvestris, who's picture I posted, running around on the forest floor. I thought it was an excitingly unusual Agroeca until it went under the microscope.

Mon 10th February 2014 18:30 by Peter Harvey
The new checklist which will be published sometime soon retains Tegenaria for the potential Malthonica species, pending a thorough revision of the whole genus.
Mon 10th February 2014 16:16 by Evan Jones
Tegenaria silvestris or Malthonica?
Hi Peter, Are we sticking with Tegenaria for this species at the moment do you know? Some racy continental types have it as Malthonica.



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