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Tue 17th November 2015 17:42 by Peter Harvey
Best to ask Geoff Oxford what he thinks, but certainly from a recording scheme point of view recording these varieties is best done in the Comment. I would certainly suggest plain english "var. lineata - black striped". Variety names, like species taxon names, should be published and accepted before they are used.
Mon 16th November 2015 18:34 by Matt Prince
Enoplognatha ovata s.l. with black stripes

Both species of Enoplognatha ovata have various colour forms that are clearly documented in the species accounts - I'll re-iterate here to make sure I've got it right and to save people looking it up:-

var. lineata - plain yellow var. redimita - two pink stripes var. ovata - solid pink shield (v. rare in e.latimana)

I was wondering where black striped Enoplognatha ovata fall, whether they were just a very dark version of var. redimita, but then I found a pdf of American arachnology from 1987 which talks about black striped phenotypes of all variants. (Dr Geoff Oxford appears to have supplied data on this).

I post here in case others find it as interesting as I do, even if its old news to many!

So.. is it worth recording the black phenotypes as such? (In the notes when submitting records I mean) If so what would be best - to add a "nigricans" to the variant if determinable (it sounds like var. lineata-nigricans and var. redimita-nigricans could be hard to tell apart). Or just plain english "var. lineata - black striped" Regards, Matt

Thu 5th November 2015 11:56 by Peter Harvey
The first 2 are the orb web spider Nuctenea umbatica and the third the orb web species Zygiella x-notata
Sun 1st November 2015 22:59 by Robert Thompson
A few spiders on my house!
Found these spiders on or around my house on the 15th Oct 2015. Looking for help on identification. They don't look like spiders I have seen before. Post code is DD5 4HU. Thanks Spider 1 Copyright: Robert Thompson Spider 2 Copyright: Robert Thompson Spider 3 Copyright: Robert Thompson

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